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debraj
Joined: 29 Nov 2010
Posts: 121
Location: england
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 Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:53 am Post subject: a question |
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| here we go......were back..
now work with me my explaining is not very good today, but be thankful you dont have to live with me, i feel sorry for my poor husband at the moment!!
ok,
you want to ask for example 'do you have a sisters?' or 'do you have any brothers or sisters?'
do i not have a word for 'a' or 'any' in this sentence? like 'do you have sisters' do you have brothers or sisters?'
У вас есть...........
im learning literally basics i know this isnt good, its not different cases and is basically just tourist but i figure at the moment until i get used to it its better than nothing so please please as always just explain basically to me.
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Yuri
Joined: 03 Apr 2011
Posts: 102
Location: Russia
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| No, "a" and "any" aren't translated in this case.
У вас есть братья или сёстры?
У вас есть брат или сестра? | |
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qza
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
Posts: 409
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| 'do you have a sisters?' or 'do you have any brothers or sisters?'
Why needed "a" and "any" in these senteses, in these cases  ?
Please answer seriously to me, I want to understand the logic.
You can say also:
У вас есть любые братья или сёстры?
У вас есть любые братья и сёстры?
У вас есть какие-нибудь братья или сёстры?
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У вас есть одна сестра?
У вас есть какая-нибудь сестра?
У вас есть любая сестра?
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Но это будет глупо звучать.
But it will sounds stupid in Russian, because xxxx is superfluous in these cases . | |
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debraj
Joined: 29 Nov 2010
Posts: 121
Location: england
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| | qza wrote: | 'do you have a sisters?' or 'do you have any brothers or sisters?'
Why needed "a" and "any" in these senteses, in these cases ?
Please answer seriously to me, I want to understand the logic.
You can say also:
У вас есть любые братья или сёстры?
У вас есть любые братья и сёстры?
У вас есть какие-нибудь братья или сёстры?
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У вас есть одна сестра?
У вас есть какая-нибудь сестра?
У вас есть любая сестра?
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Но это будет глупо звучать.
But it will sounds stupid in Russian, because xxxx is superfluous in these cases . |
hmmm were is lionel when you need him, he is clever!!?? i dont know qza i really dont, its to do with grammar and its just what we say ill pm lionel and ask him to help xx | |
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qza
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Very simple, how will change the idea of these phrases if you say this
'do you have a sisters?' or 'do you have any brothers or sisters?
without "a" and "any"?
If nohow, when these is not needed | |
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Rick
Joined: 26 Jan 2011
Posts: 39
Location: Holland
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| It's not that hard debraj. qza is just adding something like an adjective. A non defining number, like: do you have some (like 2, 3, 4...) brothers or sisters?
And a number, У вас есть одна сестра? = Do you have one sister?
Like qza says: such a question sounds a bit silly Hope this helps. Just remember Russian language doesn't use 'a' and 'the'. | |
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qza
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| Не совсем так, я имел в виду
одна = некая
У вас есть некая сестра?
"некая" примерно соответствует артиклю "а", т.е. неопределённа
"та самая", или просто "та" примерно соответствует артиклю "тне", т.е. конкретно определена...
но не используется, или используется в редких случаях.
"любая" = any | |
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debraj
Joined: 29 Nov 2010
Posts: 121
Location: england
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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| | Rick wrote: | It's not that hard debraj. qza is just adding something like an adjective. A non defining number, like: do you have some (like 2, 3, 4...) brothers or sisters?
And a number, У вас есть одна сестра? = Do you have one sister?
Like qza says: such a question sounds a bit silly Hope this helps. Just remember Russian language doesn't use 'a' and 'the'. |
No I understand that rick and normally I would be ok with such a simple thing it's just my brain just wasn't working very well yesterday hahahahaha it comes and goes, thank you all for your help, it's hard when your used to using certain adjectives etc.... To not have to use them xx | |
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Rick
Joined: 26 Jan 2011
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Location: Holland
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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| | thank you qza! | |
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